Dummy device needed?
AVR: Denon AVR-391
I'm not sure the best way to set this one up? I want to have access to more advanced audio commands. But some of these commands (e.g. 'Surround Parameter' in the AVR, risk breaking the Recipes. i.e. if the AVR then is not brought back to Main Menu level, then the Recipes fail.)
So I want to use a dummy device to set this up, one apart from the device used by everyone else who might use the remote. BUT WHAT DUMMY DEVICE TO USE? I tried using Chromecast a second time, but then 'Now Active' sessions stacks up with multiple sessions active.
Instead I add the Control for the AVR, but that is annoying in that a ton of commands then appear, but none of them work.
SO I'M HOPING FOR A BETTER DUMMY DEVICE TO USE, with BETTER CONTROLS.
Bill Kaczmarek If I am understanding you correctly, to accomplish this you just need to add AVR shortcuts to each of your existing recipes. I have recipes for Directv, Roku, Blu-ray, etc. and have added AVR shortcuts which allow me to switch surround parameters and access full AVR setup from within each recipe. Adding a dummy device should not be necessary. Hope this helps.
I think there are different options to get this solved:
As Dave H already said, adding the needed shortcuts in the recipes in which you want to have them. You could also go ahead and add the needed steps in the recipes to automatically make sure you put your AVR back on the main menu level, for example in the powered-off part of your recipes.
Another option would be to come up with fully custom recipes to bring your AVR in the according to modes which include all steps needed. The manually created recipes are not tracked in the now active section, so this would prevent the piling up you described.
You could also enable the hidden recipe for the AVR itself by toggling the switch in the settings menu in the NEEO App under "recipes" and adjusting that to your needs.
Another option would be to add your AVR again in case you are already making use of the hidden recipe described above and then use the recipe from the second device.
Did you already put some recipes together? Would you mind sharing these?
Thanks, Dave H and Patrick. Dave's suggestion was what I did as step 1. But I learned that certain AVR shortcuts like 'surround Parameter' were dangerous to other recipes. 'Surround Parameter' toggles open and closed again a menu. I know of no command to go to the main menu, and if the submenu is left open, then the AVR commands/recipes fail. So, I don't think Patrick's suggestion to revert safely back to the main menu is possible.
Patrick's suggestion to set up - if I understand correctly - separate, individual recipes to attain various desired modes. Andy apologized that he found no commands for discrete modes. Even worse, the options vary dynamically depending upon the programming - sometimes Dolby, sometimes PLI, etc - necessitating a visual look at the 'surround parameter submenu' at any time to see which options are available. So, unless I'm missing something, I don't see this option as being possible.
So step 2 was to segregate dangerous and esoteric commands. Call it "No Go Audio" in hopes of keeping out the uninitiated. But reusing devices means they "pile up" as Active device. (Patrick you suggest reusing the AVR, but wouldn't that pile up too?). I've tried a custom recipe containing just a command, but this then doesn't allow shortcuts to be added! So it misses the whole point and is useless. Now I have the custom recipe set up with the only command being 'Show the AVR Controls'. This, just so that I can add the Shortcuts that I need, like 'Surround Parameter.' (The annoying part is that the commands on that Controls page are all useless and distracting.)
My major recipes are all working well (apart from excessive delays that seem unavoidable until smart delay is no longer stupid delay. Are you interested in seeing just related recipes? I'm not sure which you'd like to see? I'll show the best one I've come up with to allow shortcuts. And the VieraCast with the insane delays - but otherwise great. (though missing ways to jump to Netflix and Amazon Prime etc)
[typos fixed - sorry!]
Sorry, I just now understood that there are not really specific commands for the modes you want to be set. I do think the approach you have found for the moment is not bad.
I understand that you are now seeing a lot of screens in your AVR recipe that you actually don't need. Being able to sort and hide these pages is one of the most requested features here on Planet NEEO. So even though I can not say you exactly when this will be ready, you should soon be able to adjust that according to your needs.
Would you mind quickly summarising the delays you actually need for your devices to be turned on? Especially the time from being turned on until they are capable to receive further commands is interesting. We could then add these delays in our database, which would also allow you to make use of the smart delay function again.
I also have a need for a dummy device, although for a slightly different purpose than Bill Kaczmarek. I have a turntable connected to my home theater. What I want is to create a device and/or recipe for the turntable that allows me to have a Shortcut screen but no control screen. The standard control screens for preamp/processor are totally superfluous when using the turntable, but I need to be able to manually invoke some specific preamp/processor commands on occasion.
Is there ANY device already in the database that has zero control screens, for which a shortcut screen is available?
Andy I just realized from another post that you can write macros.
Please add four shortcuts: [This is for Panasonic TC-P42G25]
1- TOP APP:
. VieraCast > Cursor up > Enter
2- LEFT APP:
. VieraCast > Cursor left > Enter
3- RIGHT APP:
. VieraCast > Cursor Right > Enter
4- BOTTOM APP:
. VieraCast > Cursor down > Enter
This will allow us to quickly jump to favorites (like Netflix, Tagesschau, Amazon Prime, etc.
Following up on this one. (I just noticed there were four updates for the device.)
The four Shortcuts there now are ever so close! ... each just needs a second VieraCast command inserted.
Each Shortcut should begin with:
VieraCast > wait 5 seconds > VieraCast > wait 3 seconds... [and proceed as they do now]
App 4 would be better if you inserted a command LEFT just before the final ENTER.
Thanks! Hope you are well.