State aware / switching modes
I'm thinking about cancelling my order because of the lag of the following below. Can neeo please respond if these basic functionality is going to be fixed Soon?
Neeo is not state aware? But... How can you then change from e.g. watching tv to watching dvd?
On January 24 2015(!) I asked here in the comments:
"@Creator: A thing that the soon-to-be-replaced Logitech Harmony has gotten right, is the 'Help' button: The remote is "state aware". If one of the your devices happen to miss e.g. a turn-on-command, all you have to do is press 'help' and then the remote will start an interactive process where you by answering yes/no to a series of questions end up having all your devices in the right mode for the activity you want.
It sounds like your "scenarios" are somewhat similar to Logitech's "activities". Right?
Do you have a method for aligning the state of the devices in a setup with what Neeo thinks it is?"
...and this is what neeo replied on january 25 2015:
"@ThomasDN: Yes - there is a method in there for aligning states - but: if you get into such a situation something wrong happened before. Automation must be reliable. This is #1 reason why we spent so much time and manpower on the database. We have a huge (probably world's largest) collection of discrete IR codes (which are codes you don't find on the manufacturer's remote). Those discrete commands will avoid situations with wrong states happening. We have spent many years in automation and customers would have kicked out our gear quite quickly if the thing works unreliable. You will like the way it's solved with NEEO. You basically get what was only found in very expensive home automations systems until now."
If neeo is not state aware:
- How do you change from one activity to another?
- What do you do if an IR command is not picked up by e.g. the tv?
Regarding kodi neeo wrote on January 22 2015:
"Kodi/XBMC has been asked very often it will be a high priority."
A feature can have high priority for two and a half years and still not be done? How long will features take if they are not high priority?
This is easily done if your devices have discrete on/off codes. If you are in Blu-ray recipe and switch to directv recipe, you just need to add a power off command for blu-ray player (or any additional devices you want off) at the end of the directv recipe. Since the neeo always sends a power on command whenever switching recipes, your devices will stay in sync. If your devices only have power toggle, this probably will not work.
You also can vote over here for the Power State Thing! This is not a fault, this is a fature they implemented. In a newer version of the Firmware the user can decide how NEEO should choose during a switching from one to annother recipe. As you mentioned, this feature is also integreted in the Logitech remotes.
But anyway, if these are your only Problems, i wonder what else you have. Consider that the Firmware is not in a Release state and that you and everybody else help to get the Software to this state by helping NEEO to be able to do their Jobs. It i a new Product and it needs some time. The first Logitech Remote was at the same state in the beginning, but this is over 12 Years away now. If NEEO will get 12 Years old, you probably never use a remote again or even watch TV...
Neeo is not state aware. Well there has been lots of talks about discreet on/off codes. This is only one situation that ruins the experience.
For instance Neeo does not remember the last used video source. So it has no idea how to switch to the correct source unless you have direct codes for input switching.
Unfourtnalty a lot of devices do not have discreet codes. So our devices are "stupid" and has made Neeo useless for me.
So now there is still no clear answer from neeo :
- can I switch with 1 button from "watch tv" to "watch pc" ? Just 1 like my harmony does.
turn on tv incorrect input
turn on receiver on correct input
turn on tv decoder
keep on tv
change input on receiver
turn off tv decoder
thats it, and off course more switches between recipes . But it should be 1 click like it is now