Would you recommend to buy a Neeo?
I've been following Neeo since the day it was announced on Kickstarter, so a long time ago. And I know it took forever to get where we are now.
Given that the devices can finally be ordered, I am wondering if I should buy one. What's the general consensus here? Is it worth it? Is development of new features quick and frequent? I have a few doubts, given that everything so far has taken so long. I don't want to end up spending a few hundred bucks on a device that won't evolve.
cryptochrome hey there.
I'll answer your questions in terms of my experience.
1. Is it worth it? It depends on what you want to use it for. The software right now, with a pending update incoming, feels very much like a beta. There is still talk of an official release by a few people so I think that it's even acknowledged to be pre-final version release level. I have basic AV gear I would like to control and it's still not 100% there for me with things like my soundbar having to be controlled totally separately due to the current way NEEO implements so called "stupid devices" (fix on this incoming). My family find it difficult to use and hope that the updates coming through will improve this. There are lots of posts on here about what NEEO does and doesn't work with currently so I do recommend you check what you want to use it for and go from there.
2. Is development of new features quick and frequent? No. I have had it for nearly 3 months with no firmware/software update. I know there is one coming but that is the reality. I believe Patrick says they hope to move towards a more regular update interval cycle moving forward but that is yet to be tested. In essence, you can take the plunge and what will happen, will happen! If an AV device of yours is not working the team will add it quickly providing it's a relatively straightforward device (e.g. not something like SONOS, or NEST, more a TV, set top box etc)
3. Will it evolve? (you kind of didn't ask this specifically but mentioned it as a concern). It has the potential to evolve for sure. It's just a case of how long it will take. I have been impressed in the last week, for example, that a couple of people were able to put together a working driver, using the NEEO SDK, for a specific device I have called DreamScreen. That suggests that it has the potential to control a lot of things. However, this does require a decent knowledge of coding and software which I'm happy to admit was beyond me! If you are into development and coding I think you could have some fun with the SDK. Ask the likes of Niels de Klerk Markus Mahr and Tim Roberts as they really know their stuff and have developed some interesting things so far.
If you are looking for a remote to control everything you have out of the box easily then NEEO isn't there yet. It has potential but then it has had potential for a long time already. If you're patient and happy to be a kind of beta tester then go for it!
cryptochrome welcome to planet.neeo.
As it is normal for people only search for answers when they have trouble and issues, you mainly find these topics in here.
Don't know if you allready read here or not at other topics. Maybe you allready do.
There is actually a long delay for the current release, that is mostly due to a big change at the software (power handling stupid devices) was announced from neeo. That is also why no update was made since the European launch of the product.
Maybe you read posts from me on other topics related to your question, I really love the hardware and the Team behind the product, the software is maintained and neeo plans to release new softwares at a monthly basis, that's what they tell you if you ask.
If you have any questions to the product or any devices you would like to check, you can mention me, if you like (just type an @ followed by my name) and I will get an info about your questions and normally answere all replys.
As far as I can say, the device is really nice, a bit of software and issues needs to be squeezed by the team, but they give their best to do so. You need to keep in mind, that there is only a small team behind it and not apple, amazon Or Logitech. Neeo consists mainly of 30-50 people with some dedicated to development, some to testing and some to public communication and other parts.
At the last state it is for sure your decision if you buy or not, my current feeling is it goes in the right direction.
Thank you guys, I appreciate the honest feedback. I am basically looking for something that I can replace my Logitech Harmony with, which I hate with a passion - Unfortunately there is nothing else out there that does it better. So I was hoping Neeo could be the one.
I will keep watching the project for now and maybe invest in it at a later stage when it has matured.
I’m not in closed beta but am a patient person by nature. I love the hardware and user interface. As others have stated it is limited vs other remotes at the moment. That said, I would recommend it if you are patient. NEEO has a roadmap with a ton of promising features. I believe they’ll get there and the software will meet their hardware in the promise land. Besides, im hopeful their biggest hurdles are behind them and software versions will progress much faster now. Im happy. But it depends on your devices, preferences and patience.
Well i to think its a matter of preferences. Neeo is by far the nicest, coolest piece of hardware. The support from developers aswell.
But its somewhat limitet in flexibility. You cant map hardbuttons to personale preferences.
for my setup with lg oled, Sonos and hue around the entire House it does the job perfect for my needs.
the only thing i miss is ability to control my hue in groups.
i dont need ability to change colours, its not possible for now.
the Sonos integration after the big update Yesterday is the best for any remote.
neeo is the only remote to full support playstation.
neeo has so much potential and a developer team, you actually believe wants to mane an extraordinary piece of hardware.
For now my concern will be the support for the tv box by Canal digital in Denmark, since i cant map buttons to my preferences im concerned that the box is not supported.
Michael Sørensen said:
the only thing i miss is ability to control my hue in groups.
If you add a Hue Light. The bottom of the list have the group names. It’s not evident right now as there is not an icon showing the difference. Hope this helps.
I have used Harmony remotes for over 10 years and it took a while after I got NEEO remote to work like I wanted.
Does my NEEO do the all tricks like my Harmony? - No, not yet. But it has so much premium look and feel hardware and current features are enough for me to control my setup so I’m excited to use NEEO while waiting new features to come.
Sure there are lots of things to do and features to release before every Harmony hardcore users can do the same tricks like they are used to.
One of my friends has been using NEEO about little over month now and he and his wife has been very satisfied to NEEO. Earlier they had 3-4 different remotes + ps4 controller always laying on their living room table but now they can control everything with NEEO remote.
So it depends, most users will be happy with current features but for hardcore users there is lots to be done. Things are evolving towards the almighty remote :-)
And of course majority of happy users will never join to Planet NEEO. Usually people who has encountered some technical issue will register and ask for help or complain lack of features which are promised while Kickstarter campaign.
Couple unsatisfied customers will have more visibility than thousand happy customers but here in NEEO community both NEEO employees and other active users are trying to solve problems and help each other. <3
I don’t even have my hdmi hooked up to the NEEO brain yet and have been using HDMI-CEC to control my Nvidia Shield. It’s not perfect, but I use the tv’s shortcut buttons for the up, down, left, right, select buttons work. I also added a shortcut for back on the screen. I ordered another hdmi cable as well to see if it improves at all with the latest update. It sounds like I’ll simply be able to plug the NEEO brain into and open port on the tv. Can someone confirm that? I’ve read hdmi can create a network across HDMI-CEC similar to Ethernet.
the remote needs a v2.0.
re firmware: I'd be content with v1.0 ;) *bites tongue*
re hardware buttons: honestly, these are the ones I never touchon my Harmony even if present. I absolutely prefer the clean layout of NEEO.
I used a Logitech Harmony for many years. The NEEO remote has replaced the Harmony from day one, but I have a relatively simple setup: TV, AVR, Dish box and HTPC. The NEEO for me has been as functional and better looking than the Logitech. Is NEEO perfect? Of course... No!
There are many things I wish they were already implemented: customizable hard button, fine grained customizable screen, Nest support among others but I am sure NEEO will get there.
Considering how young NEEO is and how many years Logitech had to make things right in term of hardware and software I am actually pleased on the progress NEEO has made so far, particularly considering the limited resources they have available.
The NEEO team certainly appears more dedicated and committed than Logitech has ever been, at least for me. Try to ask Logitech to modify how they handle a device and see what kind of response you get...
Investing on a NEEO is like supporting a project for the long haul. The more this project is successful, the more sales it will generate and this in turn will increase the resources they will able to dedicate on improving the remote for all of us. I may be wrong but my personal feeling is this project will only get better particularly because the developer seem to listen to their customer. I have seen them on this forum trying their best to listen and help with any reasonable requests.
I realize this is not for everyone, but if you like to tinker and if you are patient, I believe it is a worthwhile investment.
NEEO IMO is already as functional, but its going to be better than Logitech will ever be.