Need a real understanding of NEEO's recipes

Raphael Patrick Andy So I created about 4 recipes, Play Movie, Play Xbox, Play PS4...  I used Play Movie last night which executed perfectly.  It changed the input on my TV, turned on my AVR and switched to Blu-ray, Turned my Blu-ray player on and dimmed the Hue lights.  About 30 minutes into my movie I had to pause the movie so I grabbed the NEEO and when I went to hit a pause icon I see there is nothing on the screen except the main menu.  So for example with my Logitech the player controls would be up on the screen or I could use the hard buttons (which NEEO doesn't have and I like that simplicity).  Why, or may better question is how, are the players controls (i.e. play, pause, stop...) not up on the NEEO's screen?  We really need some videos and literature on how to recipes work and how to create them.  Is this possible?  Also can you help me with my current issue?

Thanks in advance!

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  • Dave Overbaugh Do I assume correctly that these are recipes you have created manually?

    As for the moment, manually created recipes are not being tracked based on their state and the devices within them. We are working on a solution for that. You are right, we should document that.

    There is a workaround though, and this is by adding more devices (for example your TV) again, that way you will get more from the automatically created recipes which are tracked. These recipes also bring the advantage that you have two parts in them ("Launched..." and "Powered Off...") and the possibility to have the step "Use Volume..." in there which allows you to choose on which device the volume should actually be controlled.

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    • Patrick I did create them manually.  But I notice last night when I used the Watch Movie recipe I created manually, when I am finished and want to go back to say watch my Directv nothing shuts down it just switches inputs on my TV and turns on my Directv box.  I had to manually shut down the blu-ray and AVR.  So I think I've come to the realization that when we add a component such as my blu-ray player, that formula/recipe does everything my manually created recipe does except dim my Hue lights.  Is this correct?  If it is, how can I incorporate the Hue dimming into this?  Or can I not do that?  Again, we really need instructions and videos on the programming and I believe a basic functionality of how the NEEO works would greatly help us and you at NEEO.

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    • Dave Overbaugh A quick remedy, provided your blu-ray and AVR have discreet Power OFF commands. would be to edit your Directv recipe to include those Power Off commands in your Directv recipe when launched (Just add additional steps).  Who cares if you are sending a discreet off command to an already off device. If you have added Hue lighting as a device you could either modify your Directv recipe or you might want to use a shortcut. I am running the Android NEEO app. When a recipe is running you may have noticed a shortcut screen. To make/edit shortcuts I start the recipe on my Android app on my phone. In the upper right hand corner there are 3 bars. Select it and you should be able to make/edit shortcuts. You should be now able to add a command (a shortcut) to your HUE device (Again I don't have HUE lighting). Repeat for multiple commands. Now you can control your HUE lighting while running your recipe.  Hope this helps.

      For example in my Blu-ray recipe I have added shortcuts to control certain functions of my receiver. In my setup, screen format (zoom) functions are handled by my receiver but those receiver commands were missing when playing my blu-ray.  I used shortcuts to allow me to control the zoom and cursor functions of my receiver without leaving my running blu-ray recipe.

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    • Patrick Keegan Patrick Thanks for the info.  My AVR does have a discreet power off but my blu-ray is a toggle.  I truly think NEEO should automatically put a command in that all other connected items should be off except current command.  This is how Logitech has worked for years.  I love the NEEO and know that it will be great eventually but I still have my Logitech connected.  Funny how my Logitech powers my blu-ray on and off with no problem but NEEO can only toggle the power.  Hmmmm???

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      • Patrick@NEEO
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      • Patrick
      • 3 yrs ago
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      Dave Overbaugh I quickly went through the thread, but I wasn't able to figure out the exact model of AVR that you have. Could you let us know? Once we know that we can check that again.

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    • Patrick VSX-LX101

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      • Patrick@NEEO
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      • Patrick
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Dave Overbaugh Thanks! Sorry, seems like I have not read everything precisely enough. Did I understand correctly that we do have discrete power commands for you AVR and that these are working correctly?

      In that case, I would need the exact model of your Blueray Player, not from the AVR. Also, could you maybe check if any other commands from the original remote turn the Blueray Player on other than the power toggle?

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    • Patrick I will check and get back to you later on today (my time) when I get home.  Much appreciation again for your help.

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    • Patrick AVR discrete and working perfectly.  The Samsung 4K blu-ray I believe has a discrete power on.  On the remote is just a power button.  I tried other buttons to turn on the player and only the eject button would power it on then obviously open the tray.  What do you think?  Still listed as a stupid device but I don’t believe it is.  Model# is UBD-K8500.  Here is a pic of the remote:

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      • Patrick@NEEO
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      • Patrick
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Dave Overbaugh Thanks for the feedback. I need to have the device driver team jump in here. They will check the code-set again. I don't think opening the tray would be good for using it in a discrete power on macro, since that would open the tray every single time you turn the player.

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      • Andy
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      • 2 yrs ago
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      Dave Overbaugh 

      Unfortunately, there is no discrete power command. Except for TVs, Samsung has no discrete commands for around 90% of their devices. And there never was a discrete for any Samsung made Blu-ray or DVD player. Sorry!

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    • Andy Patrick Then why make it a stupid device?  Just have the power toggle as the form of powering the unit on.  It works when I turn it on (and I believe when powered down too but I'll have to confirm).  I don't like the screen that comes up telling me to manually turn it on.  Also I will start another discussion on recipes.  I have many questions.  Thanks again for all your help!  I do live my NEEO.

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