Select remote option
I change a lot between inputs, devices, or just need to go into a menu of some device but i dont want to startup a whole recipe to activate the remote.
The way i solved it now is at the end of the screen on every recipe there are my most used buttons for all my devices. it would be nice to select the remote and also use the physical buttons of the NEEO.
For now I've got multiple slides in multiple recipes with exactly the same buttons I rarely use.
EDIT: the image contains a setup how to integrate with the UI. Just add a button in the far left corner maybe make it a remote icon or something, but you get the idea, when tapping this the menu opens with all the devices (added or owned, select by choice is the way to go i guess) this way you can switch your NEEO into a native remote without leaving the recipe you're currently in.
little update Patrick Andy Raphael
If you have doubts about the integration you could just make it a customizable option. Go into settings-> remote-> remote select->enable/disable. This way you activate the option or just leave it disabled by default. This way you dont confuse regular users but give a choice to techheads who fiddle a lot with equipment. This way you dont have to keep on adding shortcuts to your recipes.
Patrick What also would be a big help is :
- when the shortcut touchbutton 'Menu' for TV is pressed withing a receipe the hard cursor buttons or navigation will be assigned to that specific remote until exit menu.
- When the shortcut touchbutton 'Menu' is pressed for IPTV inside the same recipe the navigation will be assigned to IPTV until exit menu.
- When the shortcut touchbutton 'Menu' is pressed for AV Receiver still inside the same recipe the navigation will be vor the receiver until exit.
this way it saved you 3 navigation/control pads on the shortcut screen, you only need to add 3 menu buttons. This really solves most of my troubles and frustrating navigation through touchcursors.Reply
I really like this idea!
If I add a shortcut to show the controls of my AVR to a recipe, the remote will show the touchpad on the touchscreen. In this moment I want to navigate my AVR menues (to fine tune the sound, etc.)
I would be nice to map the hardbuttons to the softbuttons, if (and only) a control-shortcut is displayed. Maybe a checkbox under the softbuttons to enable mapping and a setting on the shortcut for the default value.
If someone adds a control shortcut, he knows what he is doing.
Using softbuttons on the display which have "hard-counterparts" on the remote just feels wrong...Reply
Yes - a possible remaping of the hardbuttons would be very nice! I don't need channel +/-, when the blu-ray player is running. I don't even ever need them, because i don't watch tv since a few years...
After two days of using the NEEO, i'm missing the pause hardkey of my harmony, and the possibility, to switch between DTS:X, Dolby Atmos, Auro-3D, Upmixers etc. on my Marantz AVR.
In 99.9% of the time, i'm the only "master of the remote", and i would like to be that also in MY custom remote setup. If this is never going to work with the NEEO, so i'm already regretting my purchase...
Buildquality is fabulous, but what's the use, when it could not get near the funtionality, of the Harmony?Reply
slight update in the openingpost, I just can't seem to get around this, its such a usefull option to have which is really easy to implement and takes almost no space at all. let me hear your thoughts..
EDIT: made a change with the button to make it more clear
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It is a nice idea Wessel! 👍
To me what you try to achieve is still a workaround for a limit of the NEEO system: recipe = device. I appreciate the approach of the recipe, but I think there are some limits to the implementation now
When NEEO will make a recipe a real recipe consisting of multiple devices, you will be able to put all the buttons you need and control all the devices into your recipe, without having to switch between recipes like it is the case now.
What you propose to do here is -to me- a step back to the universal remotes of 20-30 years ago:
you select the device to control, and then give the command. That's practical, but that's not a thinking remote to me and you could achieve it with a 25euro costing universal remote of the praxis. 🙂
It is still a brain teaser how to properly tackle the thinking remote part, but then it is not really my job neither 😉 In the end I changed a lot of equipment last year in order to have it smartly integrating with each other, but I'm that far integrated now that all my appliances almost work altogether on HDMI CEC alone, without having to use the NEEO. 😂Reply
Full support for the « add devices » suggestion. I realise I fall in the « tech guy » category and am also a happy harmony user but:
1) until all devices become really smart and automation can be implemented more reliably we are going to need specific commands once in a while to correct things (such as a failed HDMI handshake, or errors with « stupid » devices.) or change a rarely used setting.
2) currently my NEEO is completely useless, it’s current implementation of recipes making it so limited I can not use it for a single use case. I have a perfectly functioning harmony and can appreciate NEEO would not offer all the functionality from the get go but it is difficult not to be disappointed.
3) though I see the difficulty of building a product for all users in all use cases, right now it seems you’ve only got the non-tech customers and straightforward use cases covered, a single device is rarely a single recipe. That is understandable but I bet a lot of your initial customers are not of that variety.
4) a major point of such a device is to make “complicated” setups “transparent” to non-tech users. We all appreciate it if the configuration phase be as simple as possible but this is highly dependant from the devices we own and how we use them, in other words outside of NEEOs control. Giving the tech guys control makes for happy non-tech NEEO users.
5) I have a projector for all video and DAC for all audio, meaning all my sources are connected to both! Currently NEEO does not support this type of cable salad ...
6) generic devices, we all have them, HDMI switches, rebranded set-top boxes, etc. Without IR learning these cannot be controlled
7) my harmony can handle a device that only offers next/previous input by remembering the current position and calculating the number of positions it needs to switch. This is not ideal but surprisingly robust. When it does fail the device suggestion of the OP is handy, though the existing NEEO shortcuts could cover this also. Of course today - even if the cable salad got sorted - I would have to use these shortcuts EVERY time.
Conclusion: I’ll still be using my harmony for a long time ... suppose I was hoping NEEO would do everything my harmony can with a beautiful and minimalistic interface, adding Zwave to the mix and providing even more reliable IR performance.Reply